Thursday, April 8, 2010

Advice from the Cadre's Wives

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PCS-ing: Moving

Here are some basics about moving with Air Force contracted movers:

Paperwork

Your spouse will be give some paperwork to fill out stating what assets the movers will be moving. Don't list your car unless the movers are moving it. We listed our big items like our TV, computer... that kind of stuff.

After you fill it out, you go up to Hill to meet with the TMO office. Don't forget to bring a copy of your orders. I don't remember the building number but it's located right across the street from the BX. You'll have to turn that in and then sign up for a moving brief if this is your first time moving with the Air Force. You can't have the brief the same day (which is retarded, I know) but you can come back as soon as 24 hours. Hope you like the drive.

As a side note, bring another copy of your orders when you head up to meet with TMO and head over to Finance to set up some sweet advance pay for moving. It's about 2,000, just for traveling. Nice. If you do a partial DITY, you get extra money to move up to 600 lbs of your own stuff (like luggage, pack N play, stroller, jewelry, etc). If you're doing TDY en-route, that's a great idea to get a little extra cash because you get paid to go to your TDY and then paid again to go on to your base. $$$!

Packing

The movers need one day for every 3,000 pounds of stuff you have. They base this on a walk-through that a guy from the moving facility does as well as your best guess. 2ND LTs have a 12K limit, so no worries about guessing. We weighed in at around 6K and we had a super stuffed one-and-a-half bedroom and one baby with accumulated baby stuff. As long as you're under that, you're fine. We weighed in at around 5K and we had a super stuffed one-and-a-half bedroom and one baby with accumulated baby stuff.

Anyway, based on the amout of weight you move, they'll come a few days before you're scheduled to leave to pack you up. If you aren't planning on staying somewhere for those last few days, they'll leave out essentials, but remember that it takes time to pack them, too, just in case you were thinking about leaving the same day the movers do. The movers will pack your boxes and label them with your last name, what room it came from and basically what's in it (ie, clothing, electronics, pots, etc). They can't pack flammables, liquids (like shampoo, bathsoap, lotion, perfume, body spray) or spray cans, but they'll pack perishable food items, so make sure you're very clear what you want them to pack. They packed our pretzel jar with the pretzels still in it.

Don't hover but do interact. If you can, pack your car with your luggage and things to move before the movers get there. Lock any valuables in your car. If you can't make a pile of things you're taking with you, put it on your bed and tell the movers not to touch. They listen pretty well. Make a folder designated only for this move. Take your identification cards, social security cards, marriage license, birth certificate and any health or immunization records. Put copies of your spouse's orders and a copy of the weight ticket you get if you're doing a partial DITY.

If you realize the movers packed something you need, wait til they come back to load or continue packing to open boxes. They seal and sign the boxes to show they were mover packed. If the seal is broken, they have to repack the box or they won't move it. Most of the time, they have a vague idea of what's in each box, so they'll help you find it quicker anyway.

The Big Day!

Feed the movers. It's not a bad idea to check every day the movers come: did you eat? If they hem and haw, just get them a couple pizzas. Little Caesar's down on 9th East does 99 cent breadsticks for students. Keep water bottles, Gatorade or soda in your fridge for them. Tell them where their food and fluids are. And don't be afraid to talk to them. We found out our driver was born a few streets over in the same city my grandfather was born in and his daughter was in school for my same major. Cool stuff. He made sure we were taken care of just because we talked and interacted with him.

The big furniture items will be saved til the actually loading day, so you don't have to worry about them. The driver will come in and document any nicks or scratches and then you sign the same paper. Make sure it isn't blank! Have him explain the system to you and make sure you agree on how many and how severe dents and scratches are.

Storage

If you're putting you stuff into storage (usually because you're doing a TDY en-route) You'll have a moving coordinator assigned to you. They call you and you put their number into your phone because you'll stay in touch. This is the person to call when you get your address and it gets closer to your move-in date at the new base. It can take up to two weeks to get your stuff out of storage (not sure why) so make sure your moving coordinator is the first person you call when you get your address. You may not get your address til you get to your base, and that's fine. The Family Support Center on base has tons of stuff that you can use til you get your own things out.

Your first 90 days of storage are paid for by the Air Force. If you need more than that, call your moving coordinator and they can get you an extension. Your extension is also paid for by the Air Force if you notify the moving coordinator before day 60 of the 90 days. You may want to double check with the coordinator.

Door-to-Door

This is the best way to move. It's also a little difficult. The Air Force will give your spouse up to 8 days (not out of your regular accumulated leave) to find a house around your new base. Once you do, tell the driver you want to do a door-to-door move. Tell him you'll give him $50 (or so) to ensure a door-to-door. This is legal. :) If he does it, your stuff will leave your house and go straight to your new house. No storage. If you're lined up for TDY en-route, have your spouse talk to the NCOs about sending you ahead to the new base. Might not be possible, but worth a shot.

Questions?

If you have any questions not answered by this blog, please feel free to talk to the cadre wives or even go straight to the NCOs yourself. They don't bite. :) Please also notify the Spouses and Sweethearts president to add that information to the blog.

Air Force Housing: On-base vs Off-base

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Info About Different Air Force Jobs

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Overview of Mrs. Johnson's Etiqutte Lesson - 06 APR 2010

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These rules are by no means comprehensive of what we talked about. This was just what applied most to me, so I remember it:

  • When asked to RSVP to an event, respond even if you aren't going to be able to go so the host/ess knows.
  • It's a good idea to bring a hostess gift when you go to someone's house. IE, if you're invited to someone's home for dinner, bring a candle/bottle of (non alcoholic) wine/bouquet of flowers/other small item. The hostess is not required or expected to use this gift during the evening.
  • You can regift items, just make sure you don't gift it back to the person who gave it to you.
  • Always look good when you go to a function. When you look good, your husband looks good. First impressions are very hard to change. That doesn't mean show up to bowl at the ROTC closing social in a dress and high heels, but try to wear clean, pressed clothes. Earrings or conservative jewelry add a nice sparkle.

Some of the active duty stories we heard...

Mrs. Hopkinson:
  • Roof stomping - your husband's squadron or flight mates will drop by unannounced and you have to have some kind of appetizer/food out within 15 minutes or they can get up and walk around on your roof. Sounds like fun. For quick recipes, see allrecipes.com and search appetizers.
  • Tip for moving: if you can do a door-to-door move (your stuff gets on the truck at your old house and gets off at your new house, no storage), tip the driver extra if he can guarantee an door-to-door delivery.

Mrs. Johnson:
  • They hung out with friends from church who also happened to be enlisted. Keep church and work separate to the point that you forget about one when active in the other.
  • Tip for moving: If it's something you don't want to be broken, bring it with you. Sewing machines, computers, china, photos, jewelry, change of clothes and necessities for a few days in case there is a snag in the delivery, handmade ceramic pieces, keepsakes, whatever. Lock all those items in the car while the movers are packing you up.

Mrs. Hanks:
  • Their family knew some cadets before they were cadets. Suddenly, she went from "Sister Hanks" to "Ma'am." Let the cadets be in training, don't force camaraderie. Same could apply to enlisted or lower ranking officers as you move through your Air Force career. If someone wants to call you "ma'am," it's a sign of respect and sometimes (if they're raised that way) an automated response. :) Go Southern girls!
  • Tip for moving: Feed the movers. Borrow a crockpot if you want. Tell them right when they walk in the door that you have drinks for them (powerade, gatorade, lemonade, soda, water) in the kitchen and ask what time they want to have lunch. Splurge a little and get Brick Oven pizza or Carls' Jr or Five Guys Burgers. They're more likely to treat your stuff right if you treat them right. And don't hover over them or they will likely break something on purpose. :S It's ok and a good idea to supervise.

"Big Week"

When the pilot slots are awarded and your cadet gets his "body bag" or flight suit

Field Training

So, I can't give away all the secrets of Field Training but I can give you a general overview of what the environment will be like so you can sympathize with your cadet when s/he gets home.

Field Training is 28 days from arrival to departure. Your cadet will be in a very stressful environment and will most likely not have time to write you, though every letter s/he gets will be read and reread daily. It's HOT in Alabama. They will sweat and drink and sweat and drink. Every morning they get up at 0400 to the sound of Reville - you know, the annoying trumpet song. They have to spring out of bed, not stretch and roll out at a leisurely pace. They sleep in their workout clothes which get washed about once every other week. And church - church is going to be a tropical oasis in the middle of Mars.


They'll have roommates...


Be put into a flight - and have to compete against each other

And they'll come out with lots of friends that you'll see again during your Air Force career. The food is actually pretty good if they can taste it - s/he has 10 minutes to eat each full-size meal. They'll eat around 3,000 calories a day and still manage to lose weight (Mitch and I both lost 15 lbs in 4 weeks - yikes!).

Your cadet will have around 4-6 hours of classroom instruction a day in an air-conditioned room. Which usually will make them sleepy. They won't sleep well for the first few days and their bodies kind of freak out. Some cadets stopped having bowel movements (sorry if that is TMI, but it's dangerous. We had one cadet sent home because of that problem) and some wake up in the middle of the night with leg tremors they can't control.

Their room is very naked and very rigid. I don't remember the last time I slept in a bunk bed before Field Training.

Thin little sheets and you had to kick out your folded corners every night - annoying

Physical Training is rough the first few days because you're exhausted. Just because you're in bed by 9 doesn't mean you slept well. Remember the leg tremors? Started around 2 in the morning and ended around 3 or 3:30. Up at 4. You take a physical fitness test around day 4, just when you're starting to recover and adjust. Warrior Day is full of physical training. You do a 3 mile run at least once a week. Those were nice. We got to run around the base and on the golf course. Very pretty.

Your cadets will go about a mile or mile and a half out into Maxwell's inner area where there is a bare-base camp with old Army tents and rocky gravel ground called Blue Thunder. They get trained in combatives and run the infamous obstacle course among other things.

After that, your cadets go to Mississippi for hands on training in the field. This is where is gets fun. Again, they sleep in army tents in a simulated bare-base camp. They get two hot meals a day, lunch is an MRE (Meal Ready to Eat). They're actually pretty good except for the omelet. Ugh. Of course, they'll probably be hungry enough that it really doesn't matter what it tastes like.

After that week, it's back to Maxwell and the last few days before graduation. At this time, Field Training is kind of fun. All that they have left is the crucible (which they may or may not do anymore - I've heard mixed stories). Ours was a 6 mile run with motivational stops along the way. At least we were in our PTs. I had to do a 6 mile run in full BDUs a couple weeks earlier. Not fun.

After the crucible, they've pretty much made it through field training. They'll sit through the last classes, practice for graduation and, on the last morning, when they wake up to leave, (if they have cool CTAs), they'll wake up to MUSIC! Not Reville! WOOT! The graduation ceremony is pretty much like our pass and review that we have at the detachment every semester - down to the music. The very last morning, they've packed the night before and spent time taking pictures, exchanging contact info with their buddies and now they're so ready to leave. They're bussed back to the airport and spend some time waiting for their flights and finally come back home.

YAY! 4 weeks isn't so bad, right? And being at home doesn't sound like such a bad place to be, huh? :)

Det 855 Events

Here are the Events for April 2010:

10 - Dining Out, 1800 hrs, Wilk Ballroom
22 - Commissioning, 1100 hrs, Wilk Ballroom
TBA - Making corsages (we won't be able to use them for Dining Out this semester, but they'll still be fun to make). It will be in room 250 of the Det (Wells Building).

Dining Out Info

Dining Out is the large formal activity consisting of sit-down dinner, speaker and ball that is held at or near the end of Fall and Winter semesters. Cadet attendance is mandatory so a memo or at least advance notice to the cadet leadership is needed if the cadet will be absent. Dates are usually mandatory too.

4 Cardinal Rules for the Dining Out Date:

  1. Don't be late.
  2. Read your program - there are specific guidelines for toasting.
  3. Don't clap - bang your fork on the table.
  4. Have fun! It's really not that intimidating - you don't have to do anything other than these 4 rules. That's why they're the cardinal rules. :)
General Outline of the Evening:
  • For seniors, there is an open house where they and their dates arrive to mingle with each other, the cadre and the guest speaker. That's usually a half hour before dinner.
  • Dinner starts promptly at 6 with the sound of bells.
  • The head table arrives and we stand. We remain standing for the presentation of the colors and the national anthem (often sung by a cadet choir).
  • Introductions are made and some of the toasts are made.
  • The POW/MIA table is set by some of the members of the Honor Guard
  • The POW/MIA toast is made
  • Salads and rolls are brought out. Always wait for the head table to begin eating before you do. Drinking is fine.
  • More toasts are made
  • The main course is served
  • The grog is opened
  • People start watching for "infractions of the mess" - a comprehensive list is in your program, usually towards the back. Your cadet can be grogged if you break any of these, but it's usually very rarely that cadets will do that.
  • The grog is closed and sometime soon you're dismissed for a short break, standing for the departure of the head table.
  • You return (standing again for the arrival of the head table), dessert is served and the speaker takes the microphone.
  • After the speaker finishes, you stand for the departure of the head table and then the cadets all sing the Air Force song. Then you go PARTY!! (NOTE: Female cadets can change into a dress at this time if you want)

Dresses run from formal to church dress - mostly some version of formal***

Things to know as a date that are generally good to know:

  • You can wear anything from church dress to prom dress. Most girls wear a prom dress. It's a fun time to dress up and, when you look good, your cadet looks good.
  • Civilian dates are required to have a corsage (girls) or boutonniere (boys). Cadets can't wear either in uniform.
  • Dinner usually starts around 6pm on a Friday or Saturday so show up around 5:45 at the latest. Walking in late looks really really bad.
  • Go to the bathroom before you sit down. You'll be seated for about an 2-2.5 hours, an hour at a time with a 15 minute break in between dinner and the speaker, who may take an hour and half.
  • The ladies are always escorted on the gentleman's left. This leaves his right hand free to salute - which he almost never does. But it's always good to be prepared, right?
  • When the head table arrives/departs and when the colors (flags) are presented, you stand. When toasts are made, you don't stand.
  • If in doubt, watch the head table or the vice wing commander's table (the one next to the toilet bowl).
  • Grog is gross. You don't want your cadet to drink it. You, as a date, are NOT allowed to be grogged unless you grog someone first. Not worth it - trust me. It's usually a mix of stuff. Just to give you an idea of why grog is gross....I had to make it once and mine had a lemonade base with beef gravy, condensed milk, balsamic vinaigrette, pickle juice and Tabasco sauce. I thought it tasted mostly of pickle juice. Like I said, gross.
  • The speaker is usually a retired military officer who speaks to us about a topic they consider important for the cadets (and sometimes the spouses) to know in the Active Duty Air Force. They'll speak anywhere from 45-90 minutes. An hour and a half is rare - happy medium of one hour is the norm.
  • The "military ball" after the dinner is a total blast.

***For more Dining Out photos - follow this link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=34145489&id=17827843#!/album.php?aid=2148905&id=17827843&page=2

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OR this link:
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Acronyms

Here is a fairly comprehensive, alphabetical list of acronyms you're likely to hear your cadet drop or that have pertinence to life in the Active Duty Air Force. I will use acronyms in most, if not all, of my posts. Bad habit. :) Most of these I will not use though. The ones in red are the ones you're most likely to hear most often.

ABS - Air Base Squadron
ACC - Air Combat Command
AEF - Air Expeditionary Force (Airmen playing Army Rangers)
AETC - Air Education and Training Command (ROTC falls under this command)
AFB - Air Force Base
AFI - Air Force Instruction (An Air Force Manual)
AFSC - Air Force Specialty Code (Designated your officer's job in the Air Force)
AGM - Air-to-ground missile
ANG - Air (or Army) National Guard
AO - Area of Operations
AOR - Area of Responsibility
ASAP - As Soon As Possible
ASBC - Air and Space Basic Course (All 2LT attend this 6 week program)
AU - Air University (ASBC and SOS are conducted here. Located at Maxwell AFB.)
C2 - Command and Control
CAP - Civil Air Patrol (these guys give incentive flights to cadets)
CC - designated a commander, ie SQ/CC is a squadron commander
CJCS - Chairman, Joint Cheifs of Staff
CMT - Combat Mission Training
CONUS - Continental US
CSAF - Chief of Staff of the Air Force
CSAR - Combat Search and Rescue
DOD - Department of Defense
DZ - Drop Zone
EPW - Enemy Prisoner of War
ETA - Estimated Time of Arrival
ETD - Estimated Time of Departure
ETE - Estimated Time En-Route

more to come....

Welcome to the BYU Spouses and Sweethearts Info Page!

Hello!

This blog is for announcements of Det 855 activities and information about active duty life for those spouses and/or sweethearts who are wanting a good look at what's coming. Since I made the blog, I'm afraid most of the info will be coming from the pilot side of the Air Force as my husband and I report to Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas for pilot training. Here is a Table of Contents for what will be posted on the blog (if you have any requests for topics, email me at kadibug2006@gmail.com):

Events for Det 855
Acronyms
Dining Out Info
Field Training
"Big Week"
Overview of Mrs. Johnson's Etiqutte Lesson - 06 Apr 2010
Info about Different Air Force Jobs
Air Force Rank Structure


and a couple things that would help your spouse if you knew about them...(from personal experience)
Uniform Wear and Care